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Men seem to think that because they don't see blood on a regular basis, no one does. Women in hetero relationships really need to start being sloppier with the pads and tampons.

If anything, modern women with access to superabsorbents have a lot less to deal with than ancient women. (Admittedly, ancient women spent more time pregnant or nursing, and consequently had whole years when they didn't menstruate. OTOH, they were present for all those births, which are notoriously bloody affairs.)

Maybe men of this ilk are in such deep denial because they know that "fear of blood" will not be a deterrent if his girlfriend or wife decides to do him in.

Maybe men of this ilk are in such deep denial because they know that "fear of blood" will not be a deterrent if his girlfriend or wife decides to do him in.

I LOLed.

(Admittedly, ancient women spent more time pregnant or nursing, and consequently had whole years when they didn't menstruate. OTOH, they were present for all those births, which are notoriously bloody affairs.)

I'm not sure this is quite as universally the case as a lot of folks seem to think. I do know of women who didn't menstruate while they nursed, but in my personal experience--I nursed both of my kids for a bit over a year--nursing did nothing to cut down on the periods. And immediately after I gave birth, both times, it was like a Big Bonus Extra Double Period.

Also, I'm sort of suspicious of the "women in ancient times were pregnant all the time!" assumption. I mean, obviously, we know some were. But I'm not a hundred percent convinced that this was universally true--I strongly suspect it depended a great deal on social factors, which would change from place to place and time to time.

Women in hetero relationships really need to start being sloppier with the pads and tampons.

Hah! I have known adult men to be afraid to touch unused pads, straight from the box, wrapped in plastic.


Actually, women in the past menstruated far less not because of more pregnancies, but because their low body fat made them hover at the edge of ovulation. This was particularly true of non-sedentary societies. Gatherer-hunter women had a space of five or more years between children: the need for mobility made the spacing crucial to survival.

Ann, what makes you think the rest of the book will be any better? The prognosis looks poor to me...

Actually, women in the past menstruated far less not because of more pregnancies, but because their low body fat made them hover at the edge of ovulation.

this makes more sense to me than the "nursing totally suppresses ovulation!" thing, given my personal experience.

Ann, what makes you think the rest of the book will be any better? The prognosis looks poor to me...

Yeah, I'm thinking you're right. I'm going on to the next thing in the pile.

I am definitely not speaking from any real knowledge of the situation, just general "hmmm, this seems kinda logical." I would expect that in environments with plentiful food, the pregnancy rate would approximate that of a typical Irish Catholic farm family in 1800. We know there were periods of plenty in antiquity.

Low body fat reducing the pregnancy rate, indeed.

I'm not sure mobility per se is an issue; nomadic peoples figure it out and adapt. Kublai Khan had three brothers, and they were all of the same mother. Granted, that's not antiquity, but how long have the Mongols been roaming around the steppes? Once you tame horses and develop the wheel, mobility gets less challenging.

Wow. What barbarienne said. I mean, there's plenty of us who wish we didn't have to see blood regularly from age 12 on, but hey.

I know, right??

And let's even acknowledge that some number of women will spend more time than we would pregnant and possibly are fortunate enough to not menstruate while nursing. Some women don't menstruate. Okay. You're in a community that doesn't have drugstores or indoor plumbing and all the laundry is done down at the river or out in the yard or whatever. "Women's troubles" are treated by other women, women need help during births--how the hell do you avoid seeing blood?

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