Ann Leckie ([info]ann_leckie) wrote,
Let's talk about ego defense.


Writers get rejected. A lot. And being rejected makes people feel bad. This is especially true when the rejection involves something that you're heavily invested in. When your work is validated, when someone says "Yes, I'll buy this lovely story!" you feel good about yourself. When you don’t get that validation--when someone essentially says "Nope, not good enough" you feel bad about yourself.

"Come on, Ann," I hear you saying at this point. "How stupid do you think we are? This is obvious."

It's obvious, yes. What's equally obvious is that most people, when they get a blow to their ego, like, say, a rejection--especially a curt form rejection--marshal their defenses as quickly as possible. Feeling bad about yourself is really unpleasant. Feeling bad about your writing is also unpleasant, especially if you're invested in continuing to write and submit. So you find a rationalization, something that turns "I failed" around into "I did everything right, my writing is awesome, it was [something else] that caused that rejection."

Obvious, as I said--except when we're doing it ourselves.

Now, the thing is, we need ego defenses. Writers get rejected a lot, and if you didn't defend yourself somehow, you'd quit. I've got nothing against ego defense. Find one that works for you and use it!

But don’t use it in public, I beg you. Especially not on the web, where Google cache and the wayback machine and screenshots make any foolish move immortal and searchable.

If you don’t realize what you're doing is ego defense, though, you won't realize that you're about to put your foot in it in a very public way. And that defense is pretty much automatic, so much so that you probably won't see it as a defense or a rationalization, but instead as "The Truth." So I recommend some introspection. I also recommend actually listening to the advice and information that established writers give out. When your image of "The Truth" doesn't match what nearly every established writer is telling you, it's time for some rethinking.

You may remember I talked about a "double mind" in a previous entry, trying to be both aware of my shortcomings as a writer but also confident in my work. The double mind comes in handy here, too. But even with that doublethink running, this is a hard place for a beginning writer to be. For one thing, it's near impossible to have an objective view of your own work, and it's nearly always going to seem better than it is. But when you're first starting out, let's be honest, your work probably isn't very good. Ego defense says, "Sure, everyone else has to go through that beginning stage, but my work is wonderful!" And then ego defense says, "So if my wonderful work is being bounced by the slushreaders with forms, over and over again for months and years, it's got to be because they're not really looking for work from new writers. My stuff is as good as anything the big guys publish! Therefore it must be a matter of who you know, or what credits you have."*

Or my current favorite variation, "Editors who employ slush readers are not giving every submission the attention it deserves, only the subs by people they know, and that's not fair."

I understand where this is coming from--I myself started out getting nothing but form rejects from slushers. And I was distressed--surely my work hadn't had a fair shot! Surely if the editors themselves had seen it they'd have recognized how good it was! The slush reader was standing in my way, standing between me and my destiny as a writer! How, oh how, could I get past the slushreader?

I know I've said this before, but I'm going to say it again. Barring an isolated case here or there, if the slusher rejects you, the editor would not have bought your story. If you can't get past the slush reader, it's not because the slush reader is standing in your way, or because the slush reader didn't give your story enough attention, or because the editor will only read stories by people she knows. The slushers at the biggest venues know what their respective editors want and don't want. If they did a bad job at choosing what to pass up, they would have been replaced by slushers more able to meet the editors' criteria.

And if you've never seen a slushpile, you really don't have any idea what it's like to wade through one. I'm serious about this. I've tried to tell writer friends what it's like, and they haven't believed me until they saw for themselves. Believe me, once you see what's in slush, you would no longer insist that it is the duty of an editor to closely examine every sub therein. I'll tell you now, and you won't believe me if you haven't experienced it for yourself, and you'll think I'm being callous and arrogant, but it's really actually true that something like ninety percent of submissions can be rejected within the first paragraph. There's another, say, five percent that have some really strong features but are fatally flawed--I remember once sitting around a table with a bunch of friends, looking at a random pull of subs from the slush of a magazine we've all heard of (Mithras, but that was enlightening) and hearing each person moan in distress, and everyone at the table going, "What?" and the groaner saying "You'll know when you read it." Five minutes later, next person groans. "You'll see when you read it." On around the table. The sub finally got to me. It was engagingly written, a fairly interesting conceit, maybe not totally original but the voice was carrying it. After pages and pages of nearly unreadable manuscripts, it was so refreshing, so pleasant, so wonderful! But instead of actually going anywhere it just...flopped. And I groaned, just like everyone else had, in disappointment.

It's almost impossible to describe to you, that feeling when I started reading, of excitement, how pleased I was to find something actually good in that stack. And how bitterly disappointing it was to find it stalling and plummeting.

It's also nearly impossible to describe to you what that ninety percent is like, the stuff you read a paragraph and know it's going to be rejected. You're thinking, "But, Ann, what about starts that aren't explosions and frenetic action? Huh? What about slow-paced pieces that are wonderful, and meant to be that way?" And I answer, "You have no idea what I mean when I say, these ninety percent can be rejected on the first paragraph. No idea." Go read slush if you can. Sol Invictus, the things people will send in to magazines! Your jaw would drop, your eyes would glaze over, and then once you recovered yourself you'd be tempted to bang your head against the wall a while. Read the whole thing? Every time? Sweet Mithras, I've done that, and I don't recommend it. Insist the editor in chief give those her full attention? Surely you can't be serious. Not at the volumes of slush the majors get, anyway.

You are not, of course, in that ninety percent. You are being rejected for other, more subtle problems. These are many and various--your idea was cliché, perhaps, or too like everything else in the pile that day, the editor is sick unto death of pirates, zombies, or zombie pirates, your premise was flawed, your characters not quite convincing enough...there are more. Heck, maybe your main character is named Eunice, and someone named Eunice just that very morning ran over the editor's dog. In short, you've got some hiccups, but you're not being rejected in the first paragraph. The slush reader probably even reads your whole story.

How do I know this? Well, actually I don't. I mean, unless I know your writing. But this is where ego defense is useful--you don't want to succumb to despair right off the bat. You want to keep plugging away, and getting better, so that if you are in that ninety percent you won't be there long, and sometimes the only way to do that and keep your sanity is to not have an entirely accurate view of the quality of your work, not at the very beginning. Everybody has to start somewhere, and while it's true some people have an easier time of it, that's not all of us. But where you start doesn't matter nearly as much as how far you go, and how far you go is going to be a function of how much work you put into it.

The work you put into it--well, maybe how much isn't as important as what kind. If you're going to fix your problems, eventually you have to acknowledge you have them.

Which leads me to another ego defense technique, and one of my least favorites ever. See, those big places that only buy their friends or people who have jumped some mysterious bar or learned the secret handshake--they're slaves to marketing and sales, they only buy safe stuff, bland work, maybe even from people who have Sold Out. But you, you have Artistic Integrity! Your Artistic Integrity is so strong, your genius so pronounced, that your brilliance is evident in direct proportion to the number of people who don't buy or love your work. Those people who sell all the time and even have fans, they're obviously not brilliant because everyone likes them, the sellouts! But you, you will never compromise your Artistic Vision, no, not even so far as to move a comma or correct a typo! You meant to do that.

Or maybe you're flexible in the matter of commas and typos--but won't consider substantive revisions. Negative critiquers just don't get what you're doing, aren't sophisticated enough to grasp the brilliance of your vision.

(Note, I'm not actually advocating taking every negative critique on board. There's a sort of art involved in figuring out what advice to take and what to leave. But if you find yourself leaving everything that doesn’t validate what you've already done, please stop and reconsider.)

Here's the thing. Artistic visions are a dime a dozen and half price on Saturdays. The trick isn't having an artistic vision. It's managing to communicate that artistic vision to other people. Now, granted, not everyone's work is going to enthrall thousands of readers. You may have a particularly quirky view of the world, something that will only engage a minority of readers--that's okay. Stuff like that has an audience, can generally find a home, even if it's not with the largest circulating venues. People who love it will, well, love it. And even people who don't love it will often recognize that it's well done, just not what they're after. Especially people who read a lot, and who make a hobby or even a living out of evaluating fiction. Like, say, slush readers and editors. So if you're at the top of your game and producing strange and quirky stuff, chances are you're going to get a note or two, rather than forms all the time, even if you don't sell to the highest paying places, or places with the highest circulations.

And you might not ever get validation from the prozines. And that's okay--popular writers, I mean the really popular ones, they have visions that a lot of people get, and that's fine and wonderful. But some of us won't ever fit into what those zines are trying to give their audiences. That's all right. The so-called big three are not the be-all and end-all of success in writing. Just because the big-name places reject something, even with a form, doesn't mean it's no good. And the editors of those publications will tell you that, if you ask them--they've all rejected things that went on to get good reviews, and even appear in year's best collections and win awards.

But if no one seems to recognize your brilliance at all, consider the possibility that it's not shining quite as brightly as you think. Don't take this as a sign to quit, or despair, or hate yourself. Roll up your sleeves and figure out what you need to do to communicate your vision to your readers. And then do that.

And keep the ego defense on the QT. Like a number of other things in life, you need it to keep going, but you don't want to do it in public.

________


* We've been over this, right? Having some sales does give you some advantages--though they're slight. Still, I'll take slight over none. And having a recognizable name leads to opportunities that would not otherwise be available. But you don't need credits or connections to sell stories--having no credits or connections will not hamper your ability to sell a dynamite story to the right editor. And neither credits nor connections will get you sales if your story isn't a story the editor wants.

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[info]mikandra

January 16 2010, 05:35:40 UTC 2 years ago

this is just a great post, and, having entered the realm of slush readers, and recently, editors (still a bit flabbergasted about this, to be honest), I can say it's completely true. You know within a paragraph that you're going to reject a story. Usually I read on for a bit. Sometimes the story redeems itself, but I'm not the only slush reader, and sometimes it will still be turned down. The point is that you really can tell.

The other thing about editing is that sometimes an editor is looking for a particular type of story to complete an issue. Magazines like to give readers variety, and if they already have a ghost story and witch story, they might be more amenable to a space story, if their audience is SF and fantasy.

Magazines always have more decent, publishable stories than they can publish.

I think the best form of ego-defense is to fling a few submissions out to smaller magazines. This also gives you a better idea of where you're at. While you're aiming for the stars, and there's nothing wrong with that, can go easily sell something to a $20-a-story magazine? OK, you can. Next test: can you sell easily to a semipro magazine? This gives you a realistic picture of where you're at.

[info]ann_leckie

January 16 2010, 14:57:40 UTC 2 years ago

Yeah, I totally did not believe it, before I read slush. I felt that the people saying you could reject on a paragraph were mean, uncharitable, arrogant...everything but brutally honest. I started out resolved to read every single sub all the way through. It lasted quite a while, even after I realized the truth, because I knew that out there somewhere, each author had sent out a little fragment of their soul and shoved it into that story, and I wanted to...to do something to acknowledge that. But it was pointless--my gesture was invisible, and my sanity necessary for daily living.

I myself advocate making sending things out as mechanical as possible. One doesn't agonize over whether or not to make changes, or whether, once it's done and sent out, it's good enough. One merely sends the story to the next place on the list.

But I don't have any problems with whatever strategies anyone uses, provided it keeps them sane, and it doesn't block their impulse to improve their work.

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[info]mikandra

January 16 2010, 05:37:45 UTC 2 years ago

Hmmm - wonder how I figured out you are a fellow Cherryh fan ;-)

[info]ann_leckie

January 16 2010, 14:58:39 UTC 2 years ago

Oh, no! That was a secret! How did you figure out?

(on the Shejidan boards, back in the day, they had an atevi emoticon, but I don't have it, so you should imagine I put one here.)

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[info]angikate

January 16 2010, 06:33:37 UTC 2 years ago

<3

This is something that is very hard to do, especially for beginners, and especially in the digital culture of LJ, facebook, myspace, twitter, etc. Thank you for articulating it so nicely, too. One of my favorite rejections was a little note that said, "We love the language, but it is unclear what is happening or where this story is going. Please try again." Or something like that. Yes, the ego defense kicked in, hard, but after re-working the story and focusing on clarity, the next time it was submitted, it was published. I wouldn't have known how to fix it without that very personal rejection.

[info]ann_leckie

January 16 2010, 15:00:51 UTC 2 years ago

It's hard, isn't it. It's just as hard when you get advice that you know won't help, from an editor who didn't quite get what you were doing. There really is an artistic integrity, there really is a choice between the story you meant and the story that someone else wants you to write--but it's often a difficult line to walk, hard to know the best way to articulate your vision.

Congratulations on getting it published!

[info]mercwriter

January 16 2010, 07:13:52 UTC 2 years ago

Good post, thank you!

I suppose being a bit shy about posting things on the web for a long time was definitely a good thing, because I didn't--and don't--post publicly about rejections or ego defense. If I have anything to say, I talk to writer friends in email or IM, where it's private.

I'd still love to try reading slush someday to see what it's like. I completely believe you that you don't know what it is until you've done it. ;)

[info]ann_leckie

January 16 2010, 16:10:01 UTC 2 years ago

Do, if you can!

I don't generally post about rejections, because, well, I may think I'm being reasonable and just giving my friends an update or whatever, but that ego defense is invisible. Just because I know it happens doesn't mean I catch it every time I do it, so I figure my best policy is not to speak publicly in situations where I might be prone to it. I think your policy is a good one generally.

[info]coraa

January 16 2010, 09:01:51 UTC 2 years ago

This strikes me as both true and useful. Thank you for posting it.

[info]shalanna

January 16 2010, 09:06:00 UTC 2 years ago

Perhaps a bit harsh

But what if you *have* gone to workshops, gone to critique groups, and all of that, for YEARS, and you have been told of this nit or that one ("I don't know this word--rephrase" and "I think he should pretend not to recognize her the first time"--both of which I implemented), and you've done all you can, but you still get "in this market, I don't know what I would do with this," or "Ultimately, I didn't love it enough"? Isn't there a point at which one should just cut one's losses and give up? I'm pretty sure I've been at that point for several years. Sometimes we should just give up--and I'm trying to turn off that inner voice that urges me to keep beating my head against this wall.

We've got to realize that even if you DO all this changing at everyone's urging, you may still not have anything. Because in reality we're not ALL going to succeed. Most of us simply are not going to be published at all, and that's the bottom line. That's where I think I am right now. I still believe that many perfectly well written stories/novels that are publishable get turned down simply because they can't take them ALL, and you didn't address that in your remarks. Often a book that sells well doesn't grab me, and that's perfectly legitimate, even if the book is "good." Surely agents and editors reject books that they just don't connect wtih personally, but those books go on to be successful elsewhere (we've heard that over and over.) My books might connect with a smaller audience if they had a chance, but I no longer believe that I could succeed, even if I did find people to tell me what to change and did a bunch of revision. I've been around that merry-go-round several times already.

I think that the people who continue to believe in their own work despite rejection and discouragement are worthy of our respect. I don't think any of us should say, "You people have an overinflated opinion of your own crappy work" and tear others down. If it is meant to be, they'll discover The Way for themselves. We should be more like fellow blogger Carrie Jones and tell people that they shouldn't stop believing. When I stopped Believing, it did something to me inside . . . and I think others should spare themselves that experience. It's better to live on the pink cloud. Trust me on this.

[info]rachel_swirsky

January 16 2010, 09:30:33 UTC 2 years ago

Re: Perhaps a bit harsh

Actually, I think she does address the idea that decent stories don't get picked up, at least not by the most sought-after markets.

"And you might not ever get validation from the prozines... Just because the big-name places reject something, even with a form, doesn't mean it's no good. And the editors of those publications will tell you that, if you ask them--they've all rejected things that went on to get good reviews, and even appear in year's best collections and win awards."

You also write that "I don't think any of us should say, "You people have an overinflated opinion of your own crappy work" and tear others down."

I'm wondering if you can point to where this was said.

[info]mikandra

January 16 2010, 10:26:04 UTC 2 years ago

Re: Perhaps a bit harsh

I thought the main point of the article was that if you find yourself rejected by a magazine, you find a way of dealing with your frustration other than wailing on your blog about what a bunch of short-sighted eejits the magazine editors are, because you may not be as good as you think you are and because that sort of thing has a habit of turning around and biting you in the butt later on.

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[info]ann_leckie

January 16 2010, 14:49:39 UTC 2 years ago

Re: Perhaps a bit harsh

I think that the people who continue to believe in their own work despite rejection and discouragement are worthy of our respect. I don't think any of us should say, "You people have an overinflated opinion of your own crappy work" and tear others down. If it is meant to be, they'll discover The Way for themselves. We should be more like fellow blogger Carrie Jones and tell people that they shouldn't stop believing. When I stopped Believing, it did something to me inside . . . and I think others should spare themselves that experience. It's better to live on the pink cloud. Trust me on this.

That's kind of what I'm saying--only with a footnote. Yeah, you need that pink cloud. But if you wrap yourself in the pink cloud and refuse to look outside it, you're pretty much guaranteeing failure. That's why I think one needs to have the pink cloud, but also a window out to reality that lets you make improvements, make strategic changes, make more or less realistic assessments--as realistic as they can be, given it's hard to see your own work realistically--with the cushioning of that pink cloud.

No, not everyone will succeed. But I don't think there's any way to know if you will or not, if you don't attempt it. And I'm not going to make guesses about who's going to fail and who isn't.

I can't make the call for anyone else, how long and how hard to try.

[info]birdhousefrog

January 16 2010, 17:34:23 UTC 2 years ago

Re: Perhaps a bit harsh

It's possible that you are getting the wrong advice from the wrong people. It's not the nits that will sell the story i.e. "I don't know this word." My reaction to that is TS, go look it up. Which is not the same as someone saying: "don't try to use big words all the time, simple words that carry the meaning are better than going to your thesaurus." The first is a specific comment, the second addresses a pattern in your writing. You have to learn to distinguish the two.

It's highly possible that you're not hearing comments from someone who can look at the meta structure of what you're doing wrong. Lots of folks can only point to specifics. They know something is wrong, but they don't have the writing vocabulary to tell you what it is.

The real trick is to write what you want to write but in a way that it's generalized enough to grab a readership, small or large. I had to go through this phase, myself. My mentor kept telling me that my stories were too personalized, that I hadn't figured out how to reach a wider audience. And there was NOTHING wrong with my prose.

So don't give up. If you know that your prose is fine, your basics are there, then it's that extra something you're seeking. And you have to cast around for someone who can tell you what's missing and give you pointers on where you're not doing it.

And in the end? You may be writing mostly for yourself. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Oz

[info]mmegaera

February 10 2010, 23:13:03 UTC 2 years ago

Re: Perhaps a bit harsh

Carrie Jones? Link, please?

Here via [info]janni btw. Interesting post.

[info]shalanna

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[info]jongibbs

January 16 2010, 12:30:09 UTC 2 years ago

An interesting and insightful post!

I almost skipped past it because so much of if was hidden behind the cut. I'm glad I didn't.

Thanks for sharing :)

[info]burger_eater

January 16 2010, 16:12:24 UTC 2 years ago

When I was doing one of the interviews I scheduled for promoting my book, I startled the interviewer by telling him that my advice for writers trying to get published was that they should always tell themselves rejections were their own fault, whether it's true or not.

Aside from what you say above (which is all great) there's also the point that, a writer trying to be published has to write something the publisher wants. The only way to do that is to revise and refine their own work until it hits that sweet spot.

But writers who insist the problem lies outside of themselves--in crony-loving editors or inexperienced slushing interns, or the Big Publishing Cabal that Only Wants The Latest Marketable Trash--have given away their power. They've taken the power they had to create their own writing career and given it away to figments of their imagination.

[info]ann_leckie

January 16 2010, 16:20:48 UTC 2 years ago

But writers who insist the problem lies outside of themselves--in crony-loving editors or inexperienced slushing interns, or the Big Publishing Cabal that Only Wants The Latest Marketable Trash--have given away their power. They've taken the power they had to create their own writing career and given it away to figments of their imagination.

This! Yes, this!

I startled the interviewer by telling him that my advice for writers trying to get published was that they should always tell themselves rejections were their own fault, whether it's true or not.

Yeah, I pretty much agree--with the single quibble that that's really hard to do and keep your chin up, which is why I suggest embracing your ego defense, if you can do it sanely and still move forward.

[info]houseboatonstyx

April 15 2010, 03:20:17 UTC 2 years ago

But mightn't that lead to revising the same story over and over? Maybe better to shrug and go on to other stories.

[info]ann_leckie

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[info]birdhousefrog

January 16 2010, 17:46:33 UTC 2 years ago

Good post. Well worth reading. I've never read slush, but I've done enough public critiquing at cons to agree with what you're saying. And for those, I have to read the entire story. But your points match up with what EVERY slush reader has told me.

I would point out that Stan (Analog) reads every submission himself. He has no slush readers. And believe me, Stan publishes new talent out of his slush. I had never sold a story to anyone and I sold to Stan. The issue before the one I was in had a 'first story' as well.

Stan claimed in an editorial that he reads the entire ms., not just the first paragraph. He says he speed reads. He says if a story engages him and he slows down, he sets it aside to read later. So when Stan tosses your story aside, it's a good thing.

He says everyone goes into the stack, even names he knows, established writers. He says he's kicked back stories to well-known authors telling them he thinks they can do better, that it isn't up to their usual standards. His only exceptions are certain authors that he puts almost automatically into the 'to be read later' pile. But no one has a leg up with Analog, bypasses his process.

Oz

[info]birdhousefrog

January 16 2010, 22:09:00 UTC 2 years ago

Ann: I pointed Greg Frost (who was my mentor) here to your post and he just emailed me back that your post led him to write this one: http://frostokovich.livejournal.com/37875.html

It's all the rage...

[info]ann_leckie

January 16 2010, 22:39:04 UTC 2 years ago

Oooh, thanks for the heads up! And the pointer. :)

[info]jongibbs

January 16 2010, 23:03:06 UTC 2 years ago

'Tis a good post, too :)

[info]madwriter

February 9 2010, 21:29:29 UTC 2 years ago

Slush reading was one of the best things that ever happened to me--and I did it both for specfic zines and a literary zine back in the day.

I don't know how much it improved my own writing, but at the very least, it spared me the "My story isn't getting a fair chance!" mindset.

[info]sartorias

April 14 2010, 19:36:16 UTC 2 years ago

Excellent post. I have an idea, though, that those who might need to hear it either won't see it, or else will once again rationalize everything you say into a simplistic version of "This sorry, ignorant world doesn't recognize real literature, though some of us still bravely write it."
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